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Hospitality issues: hosts and guests
You are an inspiration to us all
Your hospitality is an inspiration to us all, and is what Warm Showers is all about. Thanks!
What about guests who ask to be hosted but never come ?
Be prepared for guest who never show up
Rating or vouching for
comments? yes yes!
I think you found the place
Obviously saying that the last visitor smelled bad is not enough, one has to let everyone know the name and surname of this individual and also the reaction when the piece of soap was offered.
By the way the Warm Showers List is not a nursery or a geriatric center or a bicycle shop.
Please do no forget that, you may ask for something but never demand or whine when refused.
-Roger
Call now for a free gouda! That's right - have some cheese with your whine!
private conversation
I would suggest to add - on the member's profile page -a list of WSL members hosted by that member, so that any other member who plans a visit to that host can inquire previous guests about the kind of hospitality they received, and any other practical information and suggestion regarding the stay (what no to do, how to make the host more comfortable, information about the host's personality, and so on...).
Then I think members could speak out with more honesty and detail about their experience, without fearing to offend their ex-host or being misunderstood.
Of course that is only possible if guests report the names of their host(s)
How would this work?
I've thought about this and wonder how it would work. We *could* do a rating system as well.
Issues:
* Why would you rate somebody who took the time and effort to host you? People are doing this out of the goodness of their heart, so it seems odd to "rate" them, and negative comments seem out of place. Now positive comments (the only kind I've ever needed to offer) might be great.
* If a guest was bad, it would be good to know about it, yes. But perhaps that should just be reported to Roger, who could correspond with the offending guest and delete their account. It seems like something like this should be resolved.
On the other hand, perhaps *good* notices about a guest would make the next host more comfortable.
I'm interested in your feedback about this, so bring on the comments!
-Randy
comments on hosts or guests
comments on profiles
We agree with you Randy - everybody has different expectations but the simple fact that if someone has been generous enough to host someone - the guest shouldn't be complaining even if they felt that they could have had more.
There are of course always exceptions - maybe if someone said that they would host you and then changed their mind when you were on their doorstop (though there could be a very good reason) might be worth a comment, or if a single female cyclist experienced unwanted attention from her male host (this latter happened to me even though I was with my partner at the time. Not through the WSL I hasten to add!)
But personally we think that this is very unlikely to happen through the WSL. More likely the guest is likely to give offense - for example we had a cyclist stay (yes this time through the WSL) who despite our request not to bring meat into our house when we agreed to host him still did so. We were very upset at the time but realised that this was not malicious in any way - simply lack of thought.
We certainly don't like the rating idea but having heard of a cyclist who accepts hospitality and then steals from his hosts maybe a comment box might be worth adding.
But we support your idea that any negative comments should be referred to yourself and Roger before being posting as something which may seem serious to one person may not appear quite so bad to someone not involved.
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Richard and Stani
www.velomad.com
rating not neccessary
Just a simple comment regarding anything special the host or guest did. I think we all try to do something nice when we receive or stay at a fellow cyclist's house. It could be as simple as:
Date+Name: "I had a great time staying at Randy's house. He gave me a nice guided tour of the town and his family cooked up an awesome meal that kept me well fuelled for miles the next day."
In effect, a person's profile becomes their on-line guest book that future contacts can view.